Saturday, March 27, 2010

...Another Thing...

''A little research would show you that all polish in the US is made by ONE manufacturer. So the likelihood that brands would have similar formulas/colors is not that unrealistic. And I asked Ginger + Liz directly where they get their polish from and it comes from a manufacturer in Northern California. Diamond is in Florida. Just because they have similar bottles doesn't mean they are the same. There are a bunch of off brand polishes using the same bottle as China Glaze (like Icing) and they aren't made by AII Beauty. Everything is not a conspiracy. Why are so many people on a witch hunt with every new brand that comes out?''

This comment was posted by All Lacquered Up on my post about Ginger + Liz nail polish.

I like ALU and it's one of the best resources for nail polish swatches, but this kind of ticks me off. I started this blog to write about nail polish (among other things) and I never though it would come to this. If I rave about a certain nail polish brand everyone is happy and everything is OK.
But NEVER post anything bad about it! Then all the nail polish furies will come and try to eat you. Come on, people!

I have nothing against Ginger + Liz brand. Nothing at all. I have to admit I was dissapointed when I asked them about shipping and they said they don't ship internationally. But ALU clearly said (in bold) that they do ship outside of US and there were all the countries of the world listed on their website. But once I contacted them, they took their time (a couple of hours) and wrote back saying that there's only US listed. I checked and it was true - only US. Where did all the other countries go? I understand if they have shipping problems (a lot of companies do), but why not inform customers about that immediately?

It's not all rainbows and sunshine, you know. There must be some rain to get the rainbow in the first place. I'm sorry if I'm cheap, but I wouldn't pay 12 dollars for a nail polish that is totally dupeable by 2 dollar brand. I don't care if the reason is the same product or the lack of Ginger + Liz's imagination. That's just the way I see it and I'm sorry (or maybe not) if someone got offended by that.

Yeah, I'm a total conspiracy thing freak. In fact... I think the jews did it! (for all of you with lack of humor: that's my sarcasm)

Anyway... let me tell you a better news. Painted Lady Fingers is having an awesome giveaway. Well, her giveaways are always awesome, but this one is special 'cause she's giving away some of the 'hard to find' polishes. Click on the photo to see her post about it.


Tempting, huh? =)

Good luck and thanks for looking!

57 comments:

  1. I love your blog and just wanted to show my support. The reason I love your blog so much is that I feel you're always honest in your posts, and you don't sugar coat things or sell yourself out completely to the companies. IMO, some of the bigger and older blogs have become incredibly boring to read because they lack personality and feel very dishonest and some times even openly ass-kissing to me.

    Never change, never censor yourself! Keep ut the excellent work!

    Love,
    Anneli

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  2. :P***********
    Any polish over $10 I always look for a dupe or sister brand.
    Why do people get all pissy when it's suggested that a company could be a private lable of x but only if that company charges ridiculous prices?
    No body bitches when we say that Funky Fingers is Private label of Color Club or the reverse whichever it may be.

    Sounds like someone just got their panties in a knot. Whatever, silliness!
    We have a right to our opinions and our conspiracy theories!

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  3. ^^ I agree!

    There is no conspiracy between those polish companies? Oh... I was hoping there is one and that you revealed it... *sad face* :D

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  4. Woooow... I just wanted to let you know I totally agree. Regardless of whether or not G+L and DC are manufactured by the same company, most people are going to prefer the $2 bottle if the shades look exactly the same. One of my favorite things about the online nail community is finding dupes for more expensive/hard to get polishes. Keep up the great work, and don't worry about being a conspiracy nut. As long as you aren't blaming G+L for JFK's assassination, I think you're fine. ;)

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  5. I'm cheap too tee hee ;-D. I don't care what brand is printed on the bottle, as long as I love the colors! In this case I'd definitely go for DC, not a doubt about it.
    And I don't think it's that weird that people are more conscious of the possibility that some colors are being released under another name/label, since the whole Priti thing.

    And above all, I love your honesty, please hold on to it, it's precious.

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  6. WTH-ever. Its your blog, do and say as you please and if people can't say anything nice then do say anything at all, they don't like it they can leave. Hell I agree if I can get a polish for $2 I will, why should I have to pay $10 for the same thing? The benefit of being a well informed consumer and I thank you for that, those that don't know and want to spend $10 or those that do know and continue to spend $10 go right ahead just more polish for me :) And I agree with Andrea, someone got their panties in a bunch.

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  7. never heard of ginger and liz and I don't think I want to anymore.

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  8. Hi. I've been reading your blog for a while, but have never posted before. I just wanted to offer my support. I looooooove Diamond Cosmetics and think they're worth every bit of the $2 they charge (and more). I know I'm cheap too, and I find it incredibly irritating and ridiculous when a company charges exorbitant prices (in this case $12) for something you can find a lot cheaper.

    Thank you for showing those of us who are cheap, on a budget, not lucky enough to get samples from companies, etc., an affordable alternative to the higher priced polishes.

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  9. Thank you, Anneli! :*

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  10. I agree with you. In times like these you're stupid not to look for a cheaper dupe. Unless you're a wealthy/rich person.

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  11. Why would they get my money when I know I can pay less to get the same thing. I've payed a lot more for some polishes and I find that DC polishes are great... Call me cheap, but that's just how I roll. XD

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  12. Well, Kate, I have to disaggre with you on that one. It's not neccessary that people will prefer the $2 bottle. You know how some of them like that high end cosmetics...even if it's not worth it. ;) But they'll never admit that paying that much more money doesn't show in quality.
    Thanks for your support, Kate! :)

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  13. And it's not only about the color! I think that DC has great quality... Why would I buy something that's 6 times more expensive, when I know there's a great quality dupe. It would be crazy!
    I'd only buy those G+L polishes if their formula was PERFECT and DC's formula was a PITA.

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  14. It's actually 12 USD. XD

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  15. I heard about this brand just recently too.

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  16. Hi, Amber! I'm glad you finally decided to post a comment. =D There's no need for me to say anything else than: ''I totally agree with you!''
    Thanks for commenting! =)

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  17. I'm so confused by ALU's post.

    She said that it's not unrealistic for nail polishes to be the same formula or color, but then she said that there's no way that nail polishes are the same, even though bottles are usually similar.

    WHAT?!
    Can someone clear this up? Thanks!

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  18. I'm a little confused by what ALU said, she said that all nail polish in the US is made by one manufacturer but then says G+L has theirs in northern cal versus Diamond Cosmetics in Florida? Is that meaning that there's only one major manufacturing company and they have different branches?

    I didn't really like the tone that ALU gave, of course many consumers will be skeptical, considering how bad repackaging has been with mineral makeup companies it's fair for us to see if companies are unique and not just in the packaging way.

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  19. You know I agree with you on this :) So just wanna give my support to you :D

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  20. I'd like to know too, she then said on a comment in her post about how some people have the same bases and just add pigment on site? She even accuses DC of trying to screw with their private label division brands by undercutting them by selling their product public.

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  21. AnotherBottleOfPolishMarch 27, 2010 at 11:06 PM

    I think ALU took your post a little too seriously. I mean, conspiracy theories and witch hunts? Whaaa?? Loved your post - served as a great reminder that it's often easy to find cheap dupes for polishes we can't get due to shipping or other restrictions.

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  22. I'm confused too, but I decided to just not go in to deep. ;)

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  23. But why take it so serisously in the first place? It's nail polish not international politics. Jeez! =)

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  24. I totally agree!

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  25. Wow. I have to agree with what Evil said (biiiiiiiig surprise there, huh?) I'm always looking for cheaper dupes. It means I can buy more in the long run. And why is it soooooooooooo unheard of to say something just slightly negative about expensive companies? I'm sorry, but if a polish sucks or is a dupe, I'm gonna say it, whether its a 2$ polish or a 32$ polish...(ahem cough*chanel*cough)

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  26. I for one appreciated your last post. If I can find dupes of a more expensive polish for less I'll typically buy it instead. I missed out on Chanel Jade but I'm just as happy with my $4 Claire's Dreamcatcher. To me it's the color that matters, not the brand on the bottle. I appreciate your honesty too, just one of the many reasons I love your blog!

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  27. I was confused by that too. If there if only one MANUFACTURER, why does it matter that Diamond is based in Florida? Diamond's manufacturer would be in northern California too, wouldn't it?

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  28. Nihrida, you have one of the most admirable qualities in a blogger (and a person, for that matter) - total honesty.

    I read your blog knowing I'll ALWAYS get your honest opinion. That means alot.

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  29. You wrote: "But NEVER post anything bad about it! Then all the nail polish furies will come and try to eat you. Come on, people!"

    I think that, if you write something negative (which you do a lot lately) about something, you have to expect and let people state their own opinions too. That's just what I think. I mean, I love your blog, love you and your creativity, but people who read your blog have also their own opinions. I love your honesty and everything, but when you get exposed like that, you should expect that someone would try to "eat you". Don't worry, I won't eat you, you're too bony. LOL

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  30. One of the many reasons I love your blog: You're honest no matter what. I have stopped reading some of the most 'successful' blogs cuz when when they do a review, the don't tell me anything bad about a brand, it's pretty much impossible that all nail polish collections are perfect. They don't help me choose which polishes I would love to have, they have become too biasedl. I love your blog cuz your so upfront about everything, plz don't change that for anything =)

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  31. nihrida, I can totally back you up on the G&L country list issue. I saw a cool pic (of what seems to be similar to DC Chainmail Charm) on MUA the other day, googled G&L, put one in my basket and chose MY COUNTRY (not US) from a list on the website. I did not check out because I always do my research before buying a new brand. This research led to the the DC debate so I held fire. But for sure there were a ton of countries available to ship to on their site, up until about 3 days ago anyway. Boo!

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  32. I think that a lot of the time, (beauty)blogging is about sucking up and kissing ass. To boldly say what you don't like and what you think is a nono, unless it's a common opinion.
    The whole LimeCrime-debacle wouldn't have happened if there weren't a couple of bloggers that had the guts to write about what they knew/had heard, and without that, we all would have thought Lime Crime was the best thing since butter.

    I guess that's why I stick to reading beautyblogs and not having one of my own - I would probably be disliked by all brands and pr-companies.

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  33. I think it's unfair for you to pull my comment out of context to make me look bad. My comment wasn't directed at you so I don't know why you are so upset. I was addressing the reader who called me dishonest and biased. It had nothing to do with you. So to call me out and make it like I'm pointing fingers at you is uncalled for.

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  34. And regarding the international shipping issue, when I originally posted about G+L they did ship international. They must have changed their policies since that. That is outside of my control and it's at their discretion to change how they ship polish. Prices change, policies change. I'm not responsible for that.

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  35. I guess I must never ever say anything negative again.

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  36. I'm glad to hear that Jennifer! Thank you!

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  37. I've posted nice things for months and noone said anything about *that*. And it's not like I wrote anything ''bad'' about the G+L company. I just stated the facts.
    Stating their mind and attacking my readers/commenters are two different things. I don't mind people having their own opinion, I express it on other blogs too, but I'm careful with my ''tone'' when I do it. I don't see what's the problem with my dupe post in the first place.

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  38. Well, thank you, Tara! Now I have a proof... =)

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  39. I guess the freedom of speach is no more! =D

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  40. I didn't thought of it as pulling it out of the context and I certainly didn't want to make you look bad. I posted it because I wanted people to see that you asked G+L company about the origin of their polishes and I have to say I didn't like the conspiracy part of it...
    I think that my original post made you more upset than I am right now. You never commented on my blog...never said anything nice to me...so why coming forward now? Are you payed by this brand? Or somehow affiliated? I don't know why would someone react like you did. It's not like it's your brand. And even if it was...that was MY opinion. I already told everyone that I love your blog. I never thought you were dishonest but I can't prevent others thinking like that, or saying it.

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  41. Again...this wasn't meant to be a critique for you. But for them. I linked to your blog simply because I know that you're informed about things and because I trust your word. At least I did until now.

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  42. I love your blog and you should not have to apologize for telling the truth. I was stunned when I saw how similar the two brands actually were. I took your original post for what it was; a way to inform your readers that they don't have to spend a lot of money to buy good products. No disrespect to Ginger and Liz,but for the sake of my wallet,I'll stick to DC (soon to be available in my neck of the woods) It's too bad your comments were taken so far out of context.In my opinion,there are far more pressing issues in this world than nail polish conspiracy theories.

    Stay Awesome :)

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  43. Actually I appreciate when a blogger says "this polish is PITA to apply" or "you can find a cheaper dupe". If I want to read advertisment I go to corporate website.
    Thank you for your sincere post, for sure I will give these Diamonds a try!!

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  44. while (in my opinion) it was a bit of a stretch to say that G + L polishes could all be duped by Diamond cosmetics... I also understand that they would be a great alternative for those on a budget or who can not order G + L internationally by suggesting similar shades.
    There certainly is not the amount of glaringly obvious evidence as was given with Priti polishes (http://polishorperish.blogspot.com/2009/12/how-to-save-10-maybe-more-maybe-less.html) versus Diamond Cos. polishes.

    Nevertheless, LOVE and adore your blog and so glad to read posts viewing both the positive and the negative. I totally feel like some of the more "popular/well-known" nail blogs make everything out to be rainbows, sunshine, and unicorns because they fear having their free polish supply cut off. It's like they've never met a polish they didn't ABSOLUTELY LOVE!

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  45. Oi vey! Poor Nihrida, getting all attacked for posting a super-helpful list of dupes. :(

    Of course, no one freaked out when AllLacquereredUp posted a dupe or two for every single ChG polish in the Up & Away collection. (Perhaps out of bitterness that Grape Pop was the twin sister to her very own RBL Mismas? Heh.)

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  46. I wouldn't pay that much for a dupable color either... what company makes polishes that match much cheaper ones anyways and tries to sell them for that much?

    As for international shipping, I think that is the one thing I hate the most :-(

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  47. nothings wrong with your dupe post hun. Its great information that everyone needs :)

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  48. Drama,drama,drama.
    I'm pretty tired with your aggressive attitude.
    Before you link somebody else's blog, you should ask them first.
    Don't you realize that you make a lot people feel bad?
    And you will say This Is My Blog,yeah yeah........

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  49. Impressed by the last comment... Linking to other blogs is totally acceptable, even desired. Quoting without revealing the source is however a very different thing, that is a violation. Nihrida didn't do anything wrong in this case, as long as she is in a country with freedom of speech she is allowed to write like she did.

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  50. 'Before you link somebody else's blog, you should ask them first.'

    Errr no. Using someone's photos - yes. Using someone's copy - yes. Posting a link to their site - the blogosphere would collapse if we couldn't link to each other!

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  51. I came here for the polish reviews. But I continue to return for your other musings on life. I found nothing negative in your review on G+L. I don't feel you have an,"aggressive attitude" at all! I find what you have to say and the way you say it can be very thought provoking. I want to show my support.

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  52. I'm sick of being attacked and of people being attacked for stating their own opinions just because it happens to be negative. People have to realize the world isn't always a happy place and not everything is perfect. If it makes you feel bad LEAVE! This is Sasha's blog she is allowed to state her opinion on anything she feels like. Yeah there's some bitches in the world, deal with it!

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